Dr. Toni Elizabeth Sar’h Petrinovich, Ph.D. was born with the innate ability to see beyond the physical realm and uses her gifts to empower people to improve their own lives and bring them more in tune with their own truth and the Creative Source. Professionally, Dr. Petrinovich had an early foundation in the world of spirituality, first within the Catholic Church and then as a Master Teacher within the Holy Order of MANS in San Francisco, CA. She continued her education in this realm, achieving her Doctorate Degree in Metaphysics from the University of Metaphysics in Los Angeles. Dr. Petrinovich is a charter member of the Heartmath Institute in Boulder Creek, CA; member of the Institute of Noetic Sciences, Petaluma, CA; Companion of the Chalice Well, Glastonbury, UK; Licensed Investigator with the Institute of Technical Energy Medicine, East Petersburg, PA; Senior Soul Recognition Facilitator and Instructor with Soul Support Systems, Putney, VT and member of the Association for Research and Enlightenment, Virginia Beach, VA.

Dr. Elizabeth Sar’h Petrinovich is author of "The Call: Awakening the Angelic Human,”and can be reached through her web page www.sacredspaceswa.com, by email at: This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it or at 360.293.2853 in the beautiful San Juan Islands off the coast of the State of Washington.

SG = Soul Graffiti
ESP = Elizabeth Sar'h Petrinovich

SG: What does it mean to be kind?

ESP: The Merriam Webster dictionary gives us the first definition of “kind” as “nature” or “fundamental nature or quality”. It is not until we read down into the next entire definition that we find “affectionate and loving”.

I find this very interesting because the idea of “being kind” does not resonate with me in a comfortable way. It seems pretentious and vague. I much prefer seeing the attributes of “kind” as our fundamental nature, an inherent quality.

The colloquialism of “being kind” has come to mean that a person shows a good nature toward others; is, therefore, affectionate and loving. Yet, I question that. If I am affectionate and loving, then that is my nature. I am not necessarily being kind. I am being myself. When I am being myself, then I am my own “kind” and I will attract to me those who are of the same “kind” to me. Like attracts like. All we need to do is pay attention.

I have a wonderful story that illustrates this point. Some years ago, my daughter and her husband came from Nevada to Washington to visit me. They wanted to spend some time in Vancouver, Canada so we planned a weekend there, also. During our trip, we decided to go to Gastown (old Vancouver) for dinner.

When we got out of the car in the parking garage and entered the sidewalk on the street, there were numerous people around asking for money. My daughter was visibly effected since she lives in a very small town and does not experience this type of life very often. I opened myself within to those who were asking for money to allow myself to know if I wished to give them money or not. I got “no” each time, until one man, simply walking along the street looked at me and said, “Do you have any extra change?” Immediately I knew this was the person I was supposed to assist. I reached into my wallet and gave him a $20 bill much to the amazement of my daughter.

The man threw his arms around me, hugging me close. We stood in that posture for some time and then he drew back and said, “Do you know that I have a job to start next week and an apartment that I am going to rent? I am staying at the Salvation Army right now and I needed exactly $20 to complete the rental agreement for the apartment. Do you know what you have done?”
Was I being kind? No, I was being with my “kind”, staying in the moment of attention and love and waiting for the nudge to tell me this is the moment. It is an inherent quality, a fundamental piece of who we are.

SG: What does it mean to be "heart-centered" and what are some practical steps that can be taken to incorporate this into our daily living?

ESP: The heart is the strongest electromagnetic organ in the body. It produces 5,000 times more magnetic energy than the brain and 60 times more electricity than the brain. It drives the body through its own brain within the heart.

When we live in a heart-centered way, we allow the organ that is connected with the soul in the etheric dimension to tell us what to do next. Everyone knows the feeling of having a “heart’s desire” to do something and then allowing the brain to take over and make the decision. Ultimately, this leads to frustration and, often, failure of the expected or hoped for goal.

When we live “heart first”, we allow ourselves to hear what the heart is saying in each situation and to follow its course rather than attempting to figure out the answer intellectually. Our culture does not condition us to live in this way so often it can feel unfamiliar and sometimes frightening. Yet, if we make a practice of listening to the heart rather than thinking our way through a situation, we will find that the answers come quickly, accurately and with a certain definition that is unmistakable.

A good practice to learn to live in a heart-centered way is to drop into the heart space when looking for an answer to any situation. Breathe into the heart and out through the solar plexus. Feel the rhythm of the breath and allow the flow to align you with the current that the heart is sending out. Then, from that space, ask the question: What should I do in this situation? What is the best way to be in this particular moment? Inevitably, the answer will come quick and sure. Then, the practice is to follow that answer rather than attempting to figure out whether it will work based on past experience. The past belongs to the intellect. The present belongs to the heart.

SG: In many spiritual tradition, there is a concept that all humans are One. Can you explain this from a metaphysical perspective?

ESP: Not only are all humans One, everything is One. The litmus test is to ask the question: Is everything comprised of God (however you experience the Source)? If you answer “no”, then what is outside of God? Most people do believe that Source is within all that is in manifestation. If this is so, then all must be One within the Source of Creation.

Metaphysically and, also, within quantum physics it is proven that when one part of an experiment is effected in anyway, the rest of the experiment is effected in the same way. The military, the Heartmath Institute, and many other scientists have done a number of experiments with DNA. These studies have shown that when a person is holding a vial of his or her DNA or a person is even holding the DNA of an other being is effected by any emotion, the DNA is effected as well.

Princeton through its PERL laboratory runs random number generators throughout the world. The RNG’s are hooked to computers and record a random sequence of numbers day and night. When something happens that affects the world, i.e. 9/11, the death of Princess of Diana, etc., the RNG’s suddenly begin to run sequential numbers rather than random numbers. The noosphere (where the thought forms of humanity reside around the earth) carries the emotions of each person and are picked up by these random number generators.

All of these experiments and so many more show our Oneness. A good experiment to conduct personally is to allow yourself to really feel your feelings with a person and then to ask that person to tell you honestly how they are feeling. It is best conducted when there is not much resonance between the two people. In other words, do it with someone with whom you do not have much in common. Nearly always, you will find that what you are feeling is what the other person is feeling, also. That person is most often simply afraid to speak the voice of the heart, the voice of his or her feelings.

Within the Quantum Hologram which is the universe (metaphysically), there is absolutely no separation. Whatever happens to one piece of the Hologram, happens to the whole. So if you are experiencing joy and contentment, you can know that you are experiencing it for the whole as well. If things are a little off kilter, again, you are experiencing for the whole. We cannot be separated, no matter how much it looks like we are individual.

SG: If in fact we are all One, how can we cultivate this sense and learn to love and appreciate everyone (even those who are completely against us)?

ESP: The easiest way to cultivate a sense of oneness is through observation. Being a witness to that which is occurring around you allows you to see what is happening rather than to judge how it should be. If we do not look fully upon that which is occurring around us, no matter what or where that may be, then we deny ourselves the fullness of our lives.

Seeing the oneness of life does not mean that we have to bring each piece into our personal lives. It only means that we are to witness what is happening and then ask from our heart’s space, “What am I to do/be here?” Sometimes we will get an answer that tells us to do something; sometimes not. Remembering the Oneness that means that everyone in our lives is God, as we are, allows us to know that those who appear against us are simply teaching us to go to the space of our heart and to live there.

I like to practice in this way: When I see someone who appears to be against me, I say these words, “This is me”. When we look at a person and state within that this person is the same as we are then we begin to realize that we all capable of doing/being in the same manner that we are witnessing. If the circumstances were different, we may be doing the same thing.

It is easiest, of course, to take baby steps and to practice with people who are more loving toward you. Then branch out, allowing yourself to be with those who seem to be less than friendly. It does not mean that you have to incorporate them into your daily life or to see them frequently. Simply give yourself a chance to see how and why they are acting in the manner that they are. Witness, breathe, observe; quiet the head, engage the heart. These are the secrets.

SG: In your work with the spirit realm, what would you say is the single most common message?

ESP: Oh, that is easy. Love ~ not the love that is romantic or gushy ~ the love that sees all as a part of me. When you allow yourself to practice non-separation, then you realize that witnessing, in a state of unknowing (because we really know nothing) is the only space in which you will find peace. As soon as you begin to assume, judge or pretend that you know, it all falls apart.

One of the greatest messages I get from the spirit realm, no matter what work I am doing, whether readings, soul travel, energy work, is one of unequivocal acceptance. It makes no matter with whom I am working or what they want. When I access their soul or their Higher Self or if I speak from that space for them, there is the most acute sense of acceptance and love. There is no judgment, no belief system, no need to be a certain way. Sometimes it puts people off because they want to “know” from the space of their own belief system at the moment. Yet there is no answer for them in that space that relies on what they believe. There is only a sense of acceptance, observation and love.

SG: Is it true that even souls of the deceased can feel love expressed by a living person?

ESP: I love the word “deceased”. It carries such a feeling of “gone” and it sometimes makes me chuckle because the “deceased” are more with us than when they were on earth. Once the soul leaves the physical body (the sense of separation), the Oneness is even more acute. I have talked with many beings that have passed over and they seem to marvel that those on earth do not know that they are there.

When we send our love to one who has passed beyond the veil of separation, they not only receive it, it is more like a magnifying mirror that enlarges what we have sent and is then sent back to us. Frankly, I rely more on the love that comes from my family that has passed over then the love that the earth holds. It is consistent, always present, non-judgmental and unconditional. I am not implying that once we leave our bodies that we are suddenly more perfect than when we were here. I am simply saying that once we are no longer within the wavelength of the physical which creates the sense of separation then that sense is no longer present for us. I only ask that we allow it to no longer be present for us on earth as well.